Showing posts with label Fannie Mae. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Fannie Mae. Show all posts

Sunday, December 21, 2008

Mortgage Spreads: Fannie Mae 30 Year versus 10 Year Treasury Notes

I took a look today at the current mortgage spread, comparing the Fannie Mae 30 Year Net Required Yield versus the Treasury's 10 Year Note Yield.


What is interesting is that spreads have actually been coming down. I had made some comments to clients during the week, before looking at the data, that spreads were being stubborn, and not really coming down. I was wrong, based on the data from Fannie Mae.

The data is daily data from December 3, 2007 to December 17, 2008.



Spread Data: (Fannie Mae 30 Year Net Required Yield - 10 Year Treasury Note)
December 3, 2007 to December 17,2008

Average Spread: 2.099%

+ 2 Standard Deviations: 2.551%

- 2 Standard Deviations: 1.647%

Maximum Spread: 2.73947% - 11/20/08

Minimum Spread: 1.57615% - 01/23/08





Wednesday, August 20, 2008

Fannie Freddie Looking Ugly - Real Ugly

Not to be an alarmist, but the stocks charts of both Fannie Mae (FNM) and Freddie Mac (FRE) look to be in what I call a "death spiral", which is a stock march to either extinction or a long time-out under $5. We've seen it with other bank stocks, Indymac, National City, WAMU. In indymac's case, they went out of business. For WAMU and National City, amongst others, they're hanging on for dear life.






Now, I call it a "death spiral", but it doesn't necessarily mean that the company goes out of business; it could mean that the company bumps along the bottom for a protracted period of time recapitalizing itself. Either way, it's ugly, and either way, we need to begin to visualize the mortgage world with either a greatly reconfigured Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, or without either of those two companies.

The key to Fannie and Freddie's survival is how long it takes for the default/foreclosure rates to bottom. Once the market gets some clarity regarding that issue, then you'll begin to see capital begin to move back into the mortgage markets.

The ARM resets peaked this summer, and they will essentially fall off the table after December 2008. From January 2009 moving forward, the credit markets should begin to see the shape of the mortgage default/foreclosure situation, in essence how deep the water is. The question for Fannie and Freddie is whether they can survive to that point recognition in the credit markets.

My guess is that in the end, Freddie Mac folds it's tent, and Fannie gets saved, but shareholder equity gets massively diluted.